As for the articles, the first about the apes didn’t go into much details of the why it was racist, and often assumed it was, so I guessed the rest of your articles were the same.
This is what I’m talking about you talking in circles. First you act as if you have no idea about the history of people referring to Black people as apes or monkeys. Which is just racist. There’s no question about it. The only excuse is that you just don’t know the history of it. It seemed like you had no clue about this. However, when I explained it to you, you claimed you already knew the history. So how the hell can you not see referring to Black people as monkeys or throwing bananas at Black people as anything but racist? Is it that you don’t see the connection between bananas and apes?
I laugh along with the racist jokes and move on.
I’m happy that you are simply able to laugh off the racist things that have happened to you. If they happened to you as a child, then that shows a maturity and fortitude of character that the vast majority of us do not have. If you were able to navigate being taunted as a child like that then you should write a book to inspire other children. Most people I know weren’t able to laugh off the hateful things they were called as children. And I’m talking about much worse than being “compared to a cookie.” And throwing bananas at people is in no way simple a joke.
However, you want to portray yourself as not being a “victim” but you’re just letting people off the hook for doing racist shit. You recognize they’re being racist and you’re just letting them get away with it. Standing up for yourself and letting people know they are being offensive to you and others is not being a victim.
Yes, I do consider the good intentions of others to generally justify their actions. Because how hurtful they are is something that is largely within your control in those situations.
And how far does that apply? Is it only words, or does it apply to physical acts as well? Should a rapist be forgiven simply because he claims he thought sex was consensual? After all we’ve discussed, should I just laugh it off if you threw a banana at me? You could simply claim you were joking. Am I to give you the benefit of the doubt until you confess you’re being racist? Because how am I to know your real intentions? Should I just reserve my offense until you’ve had a chance to explain why you did something racist? What about the people who observed you doing this? Should we all just be calm and wait for you to explain your action before kicking your ass?
But the type of comments made to me and comments like “you’re black on the outside but white on the inside” wouldn’t offend me at all. Mostly because yes, I understand that it is well-intended.
But it’s not. If someone is claiming that “you’re one of the good ones”, not like those other smelly towel-heads who are probably terrorist sympathizers then it is offensive and you should be offended. You want to assume they want to associate with you because you have common interest but really they mean you’re acceptable to them because you fit into their definition of normal, which is defined by white culture. Your culture is not normal and you must suppress it in order for them to accept you as a peer.
When other Brown people say this about you they are saying that you are not really one of them, you’d rather be accepted by white people than embrace your culture. That should sting at least a little bit.
I thought maybe this is a Black thing and you’ll just never get it. But all the Latino and Asian people I know who have experienced this get it so it seems like it just a complete lack of personal experience in this that makes you so naive about it.
But regarding the guy who posted about the couple and knew he’d potentially lose his job if it was racist — why post it at all? If he did it with the racist intent, he’d also understand the risks to his job, should he not? That is why I personally don’t think it makes sense that he’d deliberately tweet a comment he knew was racist.
There apparently were no real repercussions with all the other racist stuff that was in the media so why wouldn’t he think he could do it with no repercussions? It’s like you’re willfully ignoring the context of this situation just to say what he did was not racist. You act as if what he did happened in a vacuum and not part of a larger pattern of racism directed towards Meghan Markle. And I’m not going to do your homework for you. You’ve made it clear you won’t be bothered to educate yourself about this situation to which you’re oblivious.
Same thing with the bananas being thrown at Black football players. This is something that has happened several times in the past decade alone. I’m sure it happened many times before that. Did some football fan just randomly decided to throw a banana at a Black football player as a joke, not meaning to be racist? And then another fan randomly decided to throw a banana at a Black football player as a joke, not meaning to be racist? And then another fan randomly decided to throw a banana at a Black football player as a joke, not meaning to be racist? And then another fan randomly decided to throw a banana at a Black football player as a joke, not meaning to be racist?
You ignore good intention where it’s hurtful, and I don’t, because I know that I can empathize with said good intent and not let it hurt by understanding the actions of others.
No, I don’t. I was very clear about the H&M incident. And as I said, I had to brush aside quite a lot from my white friends growing up, because I knew they weren’t being intentionally hurtful. But there are some things that occurred that still really bother me to this day, mostly because I didn’t speak up and tell them how hurtful they were being. But you expect people to reserve their feelings until they fully understand the intentions of the act that hurt them. The world doesn’t sit around waiting for explanations when they are offended or hurt. They may accept it later, but they can’t change the initial effect.
HOW?
HOW?
SERIOUSLY, HOW?
I JUST DON’T GET YOU HOW YOU CAN GIVE PEOPLE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WITH THESE THINGS. YOU KNOW IT’S RACIST. YOU DON’T NEED AN ARTICLE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY IT’S RACIST! THERE’S HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF DOCUMENTED CASES OF THIS ACT OF RACISM. THE MONKEY PHOTO AND ALL THE OCCURRENCES AT RECENT FOOTBALL GAMES ARE CLEARLY RACIST TO EVERYONE BUT YOU FOR SOME REASON. AND YOU CAN’T COMPREHEND WHY SOMEONE WOULD LIE TO SAVE FACE? SERIOUSLY, IT IS FUCKING INFURIATED THAT YOU KEEP DEFENDING ASSHOLES DOING RACIST SHIT. MY WHOLE POINT ABOUT EMPATHY JUST SEEMS TO GO OVER YOUR HEAD BECAUSE YOU WOULD RATHER EMPATHIZE WITH PEOPLE DOING RACIST THINGS THAN THE PEOPLE THEY ARE DOING IT TO.
I guess what remains is whether or not you don’t like my ideas of well-intended comments being justified.
The fact that you’re still questioning this at this point is ridiculous. I notice you still have not commented on this.
I’m not holding my breath.
